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Should We Avoid Soy, Almond, Oat Milks? Calcium Dangers? Dr Greger


We’ve known for some time that taking calcium
supplements can be dangerous for human health and in particular has been linked to an increased
risk of heart attack and stroke. This is because when we take the calcium supplement
we get a spike of calcium in our bloodstream and this rapid and sustained increases in
serum calcium after ingestion can last as long as eight hours. This produces a hypercoagulable state, where
your blood clots more easily, which could increase the risk of clots in the brain and
heart. Those on a plant based diet need to pay close
attention to their calcium intake ensuring they get adequate amounts. It’s recommended that adults need anywhere
from 500- 700mg of calcium daily. Thankfully there are some excellent vegan
sources of calcium which include kale which has 139mg of calcium per 100g serving, 1 cup
of collard greens provides 357mg 100g of calcium set tofu has roughly 350mg, 30g of Almonds
has 75mg 100g chia seed has 631mg of calcium. And 1 cup of steamed bok choy has 158 mg. What can also be very helpful are the calcium
fortified plant milks such as soy, oat and almond milk. And what’s great is the body absorbs the
calcium from soy milk just as well as it does from cows milk but without all harmful other
things found in dairy. But are these fortified milks really safe
or will they too cause a spike in our serum calcium levels and have similar effect as
supplements do? Well in a interview with and chat and chew
Dr Michael Greger was asked this very question. The link to the original video is in the description
below I highly recommended heading over to chat and chew‘s youtube channel as they
have tons of fantastic interviews with many plant based educators. All the links are below. [Dr Greger] The ideal source of calcium is
what are called low oxalate dark green leafy vegetables which are all greens with the exception
of spinach, swiss chard and beet greens-which are fantastic foods they’re just a little
stingy with their calcium and they don’t have great absorbable calcium sources. But all other greens like collards and kale
and bok choy etc are great sources of calcium. Why better sources than fortified almond milk,
soy milk? Because it’s not a processed food it doesn’t
have added sodium salt and has all these other wonderful goodies like fiber and folate and
potassium all these other wonderful things that you may be missing eating some kind of
soy milk or something. Soy milk is better than dairy milk though,
but wait a second isn’t there still kind of a large calcium load? Actually it’s not. The reason that we’re concerned about calcium
supplements is because we get this huge spike, so people take 500mg pills and that gives
you a huge spike in calcium levels in your blood and that’s what we think is causing
the problem whereas physiologically, naturally we’d get little bits of calcium throughout
the day and that’s something like you’d get in a glass of soy milk you get about 100mg
here 100 there and those are the more kind of natural levels that you’d get throughout
the day and you don’t get that artificial exaggerated spike in your calcium levels in
the blood which is why we think calcium supplements have been associated with heart attacks and
other adverse cardiovascular outcomes.

33 thoughts on “Should We Avoid Soy, Almond, Oat Milks? Calcium Dangers? Dr Greger

  1. Dr. G says we get ~100mg of calcium from fortified milks, but I don't think this is accurate. Most fortified plant milks say they contain 45% of the daily value, and the daily value (on US nutrition labels, at least) is based on a 1000mg recommendation. So, that would be 450mg of calcium per cup.

  2. i doubt that any1 on this very planet can digest any milk of any sort
    yes that includes "normal dairy" as well as shitty oat soy or whatever milk
    almond is fine i guess, but not the fucking store bought garbage with sweetener that just bloat u
    but u pepegas just want "tasty", i know i know, so who am i to judge, uve different priorities

  3. lol 😂 what ? listen everyone! don't follow doctor's advice and if you can get yourself some organic goat milk which is better,because our elders used to consume most of their calcium from cow's milk or fish and cheese,not from plants because the calcium found in plants is not digestable as efficiently as dairy products and so on,leafy greens like all of them and any plant source of calcium is very bad for you because 80% or more of that calcium is called calcium oxalates so there you go folks if you wanna know more about what oxalates are then go do your research and don't listen to doctors.

  4. I've known this all along. Its logical, common sense. If calcium supplements and other supplements do harm why would you want the same in a fortified food? This is what the dairy industry does to milk. So the practice is carried into plant milk. Not good when anyone does it. The same goes for other fortified foods. They are synthetic vitamins that the body des not properly recognize. Especially when combined with a food this confuses the body and affects absorption of nutrients.

  5. We need much less calcium if we are eating no to low salt anyways and whole food plant based diet, no worries:

    https://www.casimages.com/i/19041506304417279116200481.jpg.html

  6. I find it a real challenge to get enough calcium from plants. So I know it's not perfect but I do like the fortified plant milks.

  7. The government established daily allowance of calcium is very scientifically incorrect. Asians, Africans, Mid-easterners, and Latins eat a fraction of the calcium Europeans (and Indians) eat. The people in these countries eat little or no dairy products, take in less than 400 mg of calcium every day at most, and have far less bone and joint disease than do Europeans. The RDA is simply Eurocentric and can only be met by eating large amounts of milk and dairy products. Of the six billion people on earth only about one billion regularly eat dairy products as a staple food. People of all races stop secreting lactase (the enzyme that digests lactose, or milk sugar) at about the age of three. All adults, therefore, are lactose intolerant, and should not drink milk or eat dairy products. Most dairy foods, like milk, cream, cheese, cream cheese, and sour cream are very high in saturated fats, and not good food choices anyway. The only abundant dietary source of calcium (other than sea vegetables) is dairy food; no other food group contains nearly as much.
    Take a look at any list of the calcium content of common foods we eat. Other than dairy products, there is very little calcium in whole grains, beans, vegetables, fruits, seafood, or meat. To demonstrate how little calcium there is in ALL other foods, other than dairy, let’s look at a generous and varied sample daily menu. If you ate three cups of brown rice, two cups of oatmeal, one cup of dried beans, two cups of a green vegetable, eight ounces of fish, eight ounces of beef, a salad with dressing, four slices of whole grain bread, four pieces of fresh fruit and a cup of vegetable soup you would get less than 400 mg of calcium. That’s all we need.
    The research on calcium is simply too much to digest, and every year even more is done. Calcium is the most popular of all mineral supplements because people are led to believe they are deficient in it. The problem, however, is NOT deficient dietary intake at all – it is the lack of ABSORPTION.
    Western people take in more calcium by far than anyone else, yet have the highest rate of bone and joint disease in the world, especially arthritis and osteoporosis. The Asian, African, Mideast, and Latin cultures, take in the least amount of calcium. They generally have far stronger bones and joints, and far less arthritis, osteoporosis and other such conditions. These people do not get, and cannot get, anywhere near the official U.S. government recommendation of 1,000 mg every day from their diets of meat, fish, poultry, eggs, grains, vegetables, beans, and fruit. True vegetarians who don’t eat dairy products also have less bone and joint conditions. The fact that five billion people eat a fraction of the suggested RDA of calcium, and have far less bone and joint disease is inarguable, real world proof we just don’t need 1,000 mg a day. You can take ten grams of calcium a day, and it isn’t going to make your bones any stronger, unless you also get sufficient magnesium, boron, strontium, vitamin D, and omega-3s. These are just the four major synergists we know of, but there are others which play smaller roles, such as manganese, zinc, and silicon. Calcium just cannot work by itself to make new bone cells (osteoblasts). Calcium needs helpers. The fact is that we need less calcium after the age of eighteen, when our skeletons are fully formed. As we age, we need less calories and less calcium than when we were younger. To have strong bones and avoid arthritis and osteoporosis, we have to take in ALL the known minerals to work with calcium as a biological team. Again, the problem is not the amount of calcium we take in, at all, but rather the ABSORPTION of it. We generally don’t get enough magnesium, boron, strontium, vitamin D, nor omega-3s to help the calcium to be absorbed and grow new bone cells.

  8. The calcium in greens is very different..in USA and in Europe. And in Europe is very different. USA have much more calcium in greens like Europe.

  9. being vegan is scary man with all the stuff we gotta worry about at some point your brain just goes HOLD ONNNN NOW WHAT ARE YOU DOIN SON!

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  11. Why are we picking apart every single food? It is the same food our ancestors have been eating to keep healthy for a very long time and all of it is perfect as far as nutrition goes. If we are here watching this video, we most likely have more than enough access to enough food to get proper nutrition. I really don't know if anyone gets the exact RDA of everything each and every day, but who relies solely on fortified milk for calcium? That's right – I call plant milks milk! Sue me! If the milk happens to be fortified, great! But most people will be eating some other food during the course of the day and if they're plant foods, they can provide more calcium to make up for what's not in the milk and other nutrients that counteract any harm that can be caused by consuming fortified foods. Honestly, much of this sounds borderline orthorexic.

  12. Calcium is a negative charged mineral which counter balances an Acidic body,to do that our body leaches out calcium from within our bones to balances our Yin and Yang,but prolong leaching hollow out our bones causing Osteoporosis,so Osteoporosis is not about having a lack of calcium but our wrong lifestyle and consumption of Acidic diets,Cancer and most diseases are because of Acidic body,all Cancer patients has Acidosis.

  13. You know what…I’m tired of these people coming to say what’s good and what’s not.. One say something is good for u and the other say it’s bad. So what should I eat then? My conclusion is I will die one day anyways so I’ll just keep it moving while I can.

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